Sunday, April 22, 2007

Independence for Guernsey?

Tucked away in an obscure corner of The Telegraph was this item. Guernsey are to discuss whether they should become independent.


Funny how nobody says they're 'too small' , 'too thick', or that they'll be the 'Albania of the Channel Islands' if they become independent.

I'm not sure what the outcome will be, but they're very lucky that the Telegraph discussed it without the kind of scaremongering you can be sure the Telegraph and the Welsh press (supported by the Brit Nats in Labour) would use if Wales was to have a similar discussion in the open (and not behind closed doors).


Britain's dying. If independence is an option for serious debate for Guernsey, then why not Wales?

3 comments:

tony said...

I say, GO FOR IT.

cornubian said...

So if you are a haven for rich tax exiles anything is possible but if you are a Duchy, historic nation and have your own minority language, but unlucky enough to be attached to England then its a different kettle of fish.

It seems some English nationalists are in a state of total denial on this subject so let me make a few things crystal clear.

In Privy Council records of 1632. It declares -

"The stannaries extends over the whole of Cornwall"

This is a judicial declaration that means that the royal claim to "Our Stannaries" extended Duchy territory to cover the whole of Cornwall. This was a necessary precondition to secure a legal income for the heir to the throne from the Cornwall-wide stannaries.

Because the Privy Council made this judicial declaration, the charter became an Act of Parliament, according to 'The Prince's Case' in 1606. It remains so today.

Another Judicial Declaration from 'The Prince's Case' -

"Cornwall should always remain as a Duchy".

Although the Charter is current law, the authorities have failed to implement the provisions in it for the benefit of the indigenous Cornish 'foreigners'.

The constitutional Duchy is being secretly commercialised as a royal private estate - which goes back to one of my original proper Cornish questions, when did this take place? That date would be a deciding factor that would declare when Cornwall's special constitutional status ended and it became more like "just another county of England".

No one seems able to answer this simple question 'when did the Duchy stop being a constitutional territory and became a private estate'?

As I've mentioned before, this subject is so Taboo it leads to petty theft charges becoming a subject of national security - hence the PII gagging order imposed on the CSP's historic court hearing over the removal of English Heritage signs from Cornish monuments.

My answer is that the commercial claim is false, the Duchy still is the whole of Cornwall, as declared, and Charles Windsor continues to reap his benefits from the original deal laid out in the Duchy Charters.

The fact that Cornwall is administrated as an English county does not mean it is officially a county of England. Otherwise Charles Windsor is breaking the law. He and his English government can't have it both ways, but try telling that to your average English imperialist.

So although many like to make claims that Cornwall is a county of England, constitutionally it is a territory of Britain, until that is, the official date is established when the Duchy stopped being the whole of Cornwall and became nothing more than Charles Windsor's property development business.

(The Duchy Charters involved 'Letters Patent', these are used in international treaties between countries, they are not what you find in 'county' set-up arrangements).

Jimbo said...

This is absurd, everyone wanting independence! Leave things as they are and have been for nearly 1000 years. Think of all the history and culture that tie us together. Channel Islands, Man, Wales, Scotland, N. Ireland, and England should all be unified and appreciate the differences. People, let's get along!